Thats why I said Ill send you a copy of his catalog. All the items hes bought are in his catalog "signed" including the ty cobb 1960 fleer that I bought off him. I sent him a money order on march 1 and he buys the card unsigned on ebay on march 5.Here is the pictures of the catalog he sent me. look at the picture and than check out the ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180090424804notice the cobb 60 fleer notice the rickey 60 fleerhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130035817712 notice the waner prez steelehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250081936774and there are more than that. Whwn I contacted joe butler, he asked me to make the money order out to carl meyer. I wondered where they had got my contcat info and then I remembered I bought a fake autograph off carl meyer (sonnysports) in october and it all became crystal clear what was going on.