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Old 03-02-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Very interesting history on the Wagner psa 8/trim

Posted By: Scott Elkins

I have ALWAYS felt that these Piedmont Wagners are from the 50's. I have always felt that they were printed with Piedmont backs b/c real Wagners were ONLY known with SC 150 backs from Fact. 25. I truly believe that were these Piedmont Wagners from the "era", there would be MORE than Sweet Caporal available - b/c Piedmont is even more common than Sweet Caporal.

I have seen some of these 1950 Piedmont Wagners, where the people admit what they have - they look VERY REAL! I almost bought one early on, then realized REAL WAGNERS SHOULD ONLY BE FOUND WITH A SWEET CAPORAL 150 FACT. 25 BACK!

Like Leon stated - the one that was sold in Mastro ONLY has a provenance dating back to the 1950's!!!! I seriously doubt a Piedmont Wagner will ever be found dating back to 1909 like it SHOULD!

I believe the sheet found in FL to be one of these 1950's reprints. Afterall, the Plank had a SC 150 back, the Wagner had a Piedmont 150 back and from every source I have heard this story, the cards were on a SHEET - NOT A STRIP (again, please refer back to Mr. Heitman's post above regarding cards not printed on sheets until the 1930's).

I have been chastized a lot believing the Wagner PSA 8 dates back NO MORE than the 1950's. However, I would tell anyone in the market for a REAL WAGNER to buy one with a Sweet Caporal 150 back from Fact. 25!!!!!

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