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Peter ThomasMastro had an 8 in their last auction which went for $5,000 +/-, which is 2x the new guide price. I bid on it, but could not see spending that much for an upgrade of a 7. Scott is right that PSA has only graded 1 9. It is a Ferris that Dave Forman sold to me in a group of 20 raw high grade Ramlys at the 95 National. The cards graded 7's, 8's and the one 9. Many years ago SGC graded cards from a cut sheet that have very high grades. I think that they now may regret grading them.