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Old 01-13-2007, 10:35 AM
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Posted By: E, Daniel

I'm not rapt in including Clemens amongst the roid takers for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, there has never even been a hint, or whiff of a hint, from any ex player regarding his being a doper. There is, however, a huge number of players who testify to his being a weights and workout nut. And he doesn't just turn up to the club ripped, he spends his time working out in gyms with other players, where using steroids would be easy enough to slip out in jokes, or asides, or even sharing. Remember, users of these substances tend to search eachother out, both for supply reasons and because they realize they are in a minority not exactly celebrated by society, and thus can relieve a feeling of seperation and isolation by at least sharing the experience with others.

And secondly, looking at his 85' donruss - which I have in BGS9, the kid was obviously a big lummox even at his younger years. Looks farm fed, big boned, all the things that as you age, put on muscle and mass, and stick to a power pitching workout that specifically builds such size, could comfortably lead to his overall size today. And to be frank, the guy is no longer exactly ripped and there's a little extra water weight and fat in there that plumps his overall look. If out of the sport for 12 months, and without the working out and diet and such, I have no doubt he would slim down alot, even without a perceived stoppage in roid use.
So, he could have done them I guess.
But there's no real reason to belive he did other than the era he's played in, and success he's enjoyed.
To me, he's a top 10 pitcher all time, and a jowly face/bigger cap is no reason to belive the worst of him. My own caps fit differently as I go up and down the 20 pounds that has become my norm since I turned 35, and I ASSURE YOU, I have zero interest in testicle shrinking substances.

Anyone take a look at the Babe's physique in his 15' sporting news, and then his body shape only a few years later? You wouldn't think it was the same guy, and not all of it was fat Well, probably not....


Daniel

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