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Old 01-12-2007, 10:36 PM
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Posted By: fkw

James,
A (big) player hurt often is a player that I would look closer at as might be on the juice. I didnt say they were on Steroids, Im saying they have the look of someone who may have at the time. Murray was a skinny 185# at the beginning of his carrer and by the time he was a Dodger he was very big. Ryan worked out like crazy, but thats what steroids do, they help you recover faster and enable you to workout more often and for longer periods with heavier weights. Ryans body was in far better shape at 45 than 25 or 35 (ie Bonds). The whole reason I have thrown out names is I would put good $$ that a higher % of players from the 1980-90s were juiced up compared to players in 2000. So dont try to tear down players now just because the truth is comeing out.

Also to respond to your "Carter" quote (above).... steroids does not = more power. You didnt see power from Carter because he wasnt that powerful.
Example.... little 150# 5'7" Joe Morgan out homer 6'3" 240# Luzinski in less ABs in 1976. Its talent (hand-eye/bat speed), Morgan a HOFer, Luzinski not.

Brian Downing, Luzinski, Dave Henderson, Baylor, Ted Simmons, Bobby Grich, Kirk Gibson, Tony Armas, Burroughs, Parrish, G. Thomas, Bob Horner, and the others I already listed, have the "look".

Bottom line for my posts is.... People need to accept that it was an era of steroids and weight rooms. Quite trying to say they cheated, they took full advantage of anything that would improve their play, and make them more $$.
And at the time, it was not against the rules! Period!

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