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andy beckercouple points.....
1. white silks with the paper backs come in FOUR different tobacco brands....with one variation of back design.
-the two most common are old mill and turkey red.
-turkey red with frame
-red sun are very scarce
-and helmar...in the 10+ years that i have collected silks i have only heard of two helmar silks.
2. aaron brings up an excellent point with the unfolded red suns. it is my experience that red sun silks with blue ink fronts are all unfolded and red sun silks with red (maroon) ink fronts are all folded.
aaron, do you remember if the red sun hoard you owned fit that pattern?
3. white silks with backs are mostly printed (the back that is) in black ink. the exception is a turkey red with frame back, those backs are printed in blue ink.
and i agree with john, silks do not command the respect that they deserve. nice examples are truly gorgeous....they have great depth and clarity of photo.
edited to add that beckett grades silks and they look a bit nicer, imo, than gai.
and that i wish sgc would grade silks, they did at one point as i own one (which i bought already graded).