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cmokingBarry, I see your point. BTW, I am not necessarily a collector of high grade cards, I also collect some sets in low to mid grade. I have a tendency to like consistency of grades in the sets I collect. My E92 mixed-back set has an average grade of SGC 40. My T206 set is only in SGC 50 and a sprinkling of PSA 4 cards. The Diamond Stars set I'm working on range from PSA/SGC 6 to 8, while my 1934 Goudey set is mostly PSA 7 or 8. So I do collect and appreciate many different grades. At the same time, I can see how someone like Jim would only be interested in PSA 8 cards. And I can also see how someone else is only interested in SGC 20-50 cards. What I am curious about is the bashing that goes both ways.