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DaveAnd if anybody has a better way to maybe approach Joe with this...i'm certainly all ears. I just think starting a thread with a question or two and having him try to answer that followed by thirty people jumping in with more questions or smart ass remarks doesn't get us anywhere. That is my reason for suggesting we would get a list of questions together, maybe narrow them down and then have him respond email to email, then post the responses. Then, the vultures could feast I guess.