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JayJim--Maybe the best idea is that, along with Leon, you set up a committee to go forward and try to put together a draft of what is acceptable and what is not. This draft, after completed, could be run by the board for comments. After a few iterations you may have something that could form the basis for an industry watchdog group. This would probably move things along more quickly and, at the same time, allow the board to breathe and return discussions to mainly vintage cards.