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aro13Alan Hager did start the first grading company and was the first to use and patent the 1 to 10 grading scale. Buying ASA cards is certainly very risky. There are plenty of trimmed and altered cards in ASA holders but there are also some nice cards that are accurately or even under graded. The trick is figuring out which cards are which. I believe Hager bought a ton of proof cards from a 1990's Topps auction so the proofs probably have a better chance of being okay.