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Peter_SpaethJay it still isn't clear to me anyhow why you asked for it to be deleted in the first place. But in any event it seems between the reposting of it and Charlie's clarification and the other comments we now more or less know what the issues and responses are as if it had not been deleted. I guess the bigger question, which has been rehashed many times in many contexts, is the acceptability or not of certain (looking for a neutral word here) practices and where each of us would draw the line. It seems that one will always be with us.