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Davemy whole view was that giving the information on the one single card asked about, was nothing more than that. if i were the owner of one of the sites and someone posted info on how a single card is broke down, i'd actually appreciate it. as far as thats concerned the way someone reads that post at that point with the breakdown may actually see the value in subscribing to a service. thats all there was to it, period, the end, the fat lady is waddling in the mud.