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runscottThere's also the fact that none of us saw Cobb play, but many of us have seen "that yankee ss who already has his own thread". Many of Cobb's contemporaries, while hating him, still thought he was the greatest player they ever played with/against. Other choices were Honus Wagner and Babe Ruth - you can listen to "The Glory of Their Times" if you want evidence straight from the horse's mouth, as opposed to the other end.