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john/z28jd Biggio is an easy choice and i believe McGriff,since his name was brought up, should be too. Before the McGwire steroid talk, he was an obvious 1st ballot HOF'er,yet McGriff's stats definitely compare favorably to McGwire. For Biggio the easiest way to assess for me besides seeing him all these years,is the fact hes top 20 all-time in runs scored,and you have to score runs to win games.Over 2900 hits right now just helps his case even more