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Old 12-18-2004, 10:30 AM
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Default N28 Allen & Ginters NOT from 1887 ??

Posted By: Julie

(Hee!) idea, there are several Old Judges of Kelly with Chicago--and he was out of there in '86.

As far Wagner not being great in his first few years--o yes he was! From the minute he joined the major leagues (I looked it up when we were picking teams by decades, and I wanted to use Wagner for the 1890s).

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