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John SThis has become absurd. There are certain personality types that take themselves too seriously no matter what they do. And there are those that attempt, especially in the relatively safe social haven of the internet, to iniate conflict knowing that the consequences will be minimal. Condescending behavior is directly related to insecurity. The greed is also sickening. My responses and the responses of others in this thread are in reaction to some very thinnly veiled statements that have social implications that go beyond the limits of simple baseball card collecting. Please re-read your comments. A simple apology would probably go a long way. I do not wake up in the middle of the night damning collectors of high grade examples. I would have to assume that most of the others on this board have similar feelings. There is no need to turn things around at this point and play the victim. If you are into collecting for the wrong reasons maybe it is time to sell and find something that satisfies your competitive urge. I enjoy collecting and collaborating with fellow collectors as a way to blow off steam and enjoy myself. They're just baseball cards.