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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Everyone assumed that I was "accusing" Ryan, which I was NOT.

All I was doing (and am still doing) is asking for an answer to my question:

Does ANYONE know for sure of an instance where someone bought their own card (either directly or through a friend) and REALLY PAID the juice just to get their own card back -- in an effort to raise attention, market price, etc.??


OR... LEON, are you saying that some Major Auction have hidden reserves, where the auction house itself will bid up the item and if it does not sell, give it back to the owner??

If so, what is in it for the auction house? Just the possibility that it will sell and they will get juice.

In THAT case, it is MUCH DIFFERENT and is definitely illegal shill bidding.

I don't think it is illegal or unethical to pay to get your own card back. Why would it be?

Dumb, maybe, but why "wrong"?