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Chris McThey are rare but what makes them tough is the fact that a lot of them were overdeveloped and thus hard or impossible to read. The set has to be in the top ten. (for being ugly) They surface on ebay every once in a while. If you can read it,it's a hofer, and you want it for a type card I would say pick it up. The moderature dude has a few on his site I think.