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fkwSutter and Gossage dominated at what they did when they did it. Wetteland didnt, he was one a few good closers in his era. Dont get me wrong I like John I played on the same summer league team with him for 5 years in the 80's, and in Japan in 1985 as well. I have followed his career from day one, he is not a HOFer. Rice was the best at one time, but not long enough. Dawson is close. Will the Thrills career was all downhill, his stats and power went down just about every year. I live in Bay Area and followed Clark..... he is not a HOFer. McGwire HR % is near the top, and the 70 doesnt hurt. You still have to hit the ball.... drugs like steroids (1990's-2000), coke (1900 era), greenies (1960's-70's), dont replace bat speed and hand eye. last time I looked there were no obvious bodybuilders in MLB. As far as a HOFer, I always think of how much a player dominated at what they did when they did it.