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LarryHello to all..
The Koester's Issue was discussed before and has been clearly stated on e bay and here on forum but here is very concise differences:
E121 and 1921 Koesters have similar white paper stock except Koesters are Blank back HOWEVER certain players are not available in series 80 or series 120 that are only in W575-1 for example Alex Ferguson.
Koesters are JUST Yankees or Giants and were issued fall-winter 1921..E121 series 80 is 1921 but E121 series 120 was 1922.
We had and sold George"Babe Ruth" with Boston Uniform.... only in set 1921 but also had from EXACT same group and album Tom Rogers only in E121 1922, yet this group came together thru Mastronet and was originally graded by PSA and SGC crossed a couple due to request by customer that preferred as I do SGC holders in appearance. Mastronet, PSA and SGC recognized this claim...The Koester's find of which I only have left Huggins and Ferguson were all found together in one lot, everyone knows that so hear difference....how could all players be together unless Koester's was a subset..It is positive proof, as subtle as it may seem to some, it is less subtle than T206 Doyle variation...
Bob Meusel in E121 has abbreviated position as OF but in Koesters it is outf.
There are many other differences such as Waite Hoyt as pointed out by Rooky13 in his thread where he actually owned both cards...side by side
W575-1 and W501 look like E121/Koesters but often have jagged or oversized appearence and are grey, very lightly struck images compared to E121/Koester's yet players only in this set do not appear in either E121 set yet they do in Koester's..see Beckett 2004 guide checklist...
As far as differences, they are more apparent than Magie vs Magee but that is universally recognized, so should the subtle differences here. I do not know for sure if Koesters bread distributed these cards but someone out there has an advertisement that was seen by Mastro that shows this offered, o/w we would have no idea how it was "named Koesters Bread anyway"..which is stated in Beckett also..They are WRONG regarding W575-1 and Koesters, they are distinctively different in color, cut, size and paper stock..we have W575-1 Ruth w/ bird(not a plug!) and it is grayer and definately different than Koesters.
E121 is actually more similar to Koester's and Beckett is incorrect...Hopefully, I am being clear..One last thing..W501 is actually similar but has date G-4-22, only dated issue and is very similar otherwise to W575-1 which is NOT similar to Koesters except for basic format!...I did that all in one breath!
I do have scans if needed...Happy New Year To All...