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Jim FTBob. I'll repeat, every company has made and will continue to make mistakes and there are bad cards in every company's holders. And again, I don't want to start anything. But mark my words, there are more bad cards percentage wise in 1 company's holders than the other 2. The one thing that everyone really has to understand is that there are a lot of dealers/collectors out there trying to beat these companies to make a few bucks. Unless a card is being graded by the most experienced graders on staff, bad cards will continue to get through. This is one topic that I honestly do not feel comfortable discussing on an open forum because it really does more damage than good to the hobby. Jim