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quanthe standard caramels have a good representation of all the hof'ers, and because of this if you want to complete the set you'll have to shell out some extra money. now if u just want an e cobb and wagner u could try the e95s. i consider this set the lighter version of the e93s. it cuts out some hof'ers (young, lajoie, joss, waddell comes to mind) while keeping the other biggies like cobb, wagner, matty, plank...even have some nice portrait poses if you're into that sort of thing.