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peteOk, I hope this works...I have 2 SGC 20/1.5 n172 of John McCarthy and Fred Pfeffer (2 player pose) the back of the McCarthy has some initials on it in pen, no other damage...the back of the Pfeffer has 2 glue spots and otherwise is a great and sharp looking card...did SGC "jack" me on the grades and what are they worth ?