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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

When a thread turns to the point where people are saying "You won't say that to my face" it's gone way too far. It's a great looking card, it's pretty obvious that he was showing it off, and he does intend to sell it. It doesn't need to degrade into insults and threats.

And Charlie, I've met Jay and I doubt he has a violent bone in his body, but he is a big dude.