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Scott Elkinsbcd - YOU are STILL the only person who outright steals money that I know of (besides the scam artists on eBay). Speaking of contacting the authorities, I will be doing so against bcd next week (after my re-financing is done on Friday - hopefully).
Anyway, here is my explanation. I probably should never have done this, but just wanted Leon to know how it feels to be ripped off (even if it is only for a little while, since I have every intention of sending him a money order for the card).
Explanation:
This all started when daniels ripped me off for $883. I posted SEVERAL times on the board (even started posts without hijacking) and Leon would delete these posts. Leon finally gave in and let me post a limited explanation as to daniels ripping me off. He was such a nice guy, letting the thread stay up without being locked for an entire two day period!
I will try and make this story as short as possible. The night before I stopped payment on the check, Toby (a great guy to deal with, whom I have had many deals with and is new to the board) asked me to post a thread about our dealings, so people would not be hesitant to deal with him. So, since I consider Toby a friend, I posted. Well, Leon deleted the post and sent me a rather nasty e-mail about the posting. THAT is when I came up with my plan to stop payment on the check. I didn't know he would mail the card out in the meantime. I just wanted to let him know that b/c he is the "Fuhrer" on the board, doesn't mean he can treat people who have done nothing to him like ****! Plus, he was still letting a known rip off artist - brian daniels - post on the board and even selling $2 black lights on the main board (yeh, the funds went to charity - daniels' charity!).
I have put up with a lot from Leon over the years. However, I thought he simply needed a lesson as to how it feels to be blatantly ripped off as I was with daniels! This might not be right and I do not condone it, but knew it was my only route, since he could delete any post I placed on this board (as he will probably do with this one as well).
Leon started the false rumors about the Fan's Baker being fake on the board when it was being auctioned. I was planning on bidding up to $15k on it, but was stupid and influenced by Leon stating several experts questioned the card's authenticity. Leon has backed out of a deal regarding a Cobb card for caramels with me (causing me to explain to a certain collector as to why I would not be able to trade him a Dockman Young I had promised that was a part of the deal). I let all this slide - even though, I would not have done those things myself.
THEN, when he kept deleting my posts on the board and was acting like it was no big deal daniels ripped me off for $883, the anger started building! To make matters worse, he locked the thread after only a couple days b/c others were coming forward with horror stories about deals with daniels. THEN, when I post about Toby being an honest person to deal with, he deletes that thread and sends me a nasty e-mail regarding my post, that was the last straw. Especially, with daniels posting right and left after just ripping me off. Hell, after I explained the situation between daniels and myself to Dan McKee, he even apologized for making a false offer on the Matty when daniels was trying to go up on the price with me!
Bottom line - Leon will get his money (in the form of a money order). I am just making him sweat it a little first to know how I felt, so maybe he won't be so quick to delete anyone's posts about being ripped off in the future. I do notice he didn't delete his post about me stopping payment on the check! Like I said, I don't condone what I did. However, I assure you - I do not steal (like brian daniels) and Leon will get his money. I am also certain many of you might not condone what I did (and I don't blame you). It was a burst of fresh air when I told an unnamed board member what I did and why I did it and he told me it was hilarious! Anyway, no need to worry about my honesty, as I was just making a point (although, I probably went about it in the wrong manner, I didn't know how to make my point to Leon with him deleting all my posts).
BTW - Tbob, Bryan Long is correct - I am going to basically quit collecting everything and focus on the Cocoas and cards that I like the backgrounds and/or poses. I will also be picking up cards I think I can trade for cards I need as well.