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tbobDon- I agree with you the higher graded caramels appear to be climbing right along. My reference was to the lower and midgrade caramels, although an SGC 40 or 50 is actually closer to high than middle grade on some cards in some sets. Until Scott Mosley had his super green E98s graded, I know I had the highest graded E98 of one player (think it was Vaughn) and it was only a 50. The PSA 7s and 8s and SGC 80s and 84s in the E94 set, for example, are still bringing mind-boggling amounts.