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eric p.bcd, is correct about the show, heck the show was much bigger even 3 years ago, bill wanted $8500 for the oj your referring to, 707, wayne varner's shoebox, tik (cow palace) and about 3 other major dealers use to come set up in s.f., where are they now?, staying home on the east coast, hopefully things turn around but i don't see that happening.