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dennisthe best advice for getting into vintage is to vow to never spend any $ (or time) on collecting modern cards. i would say that every one here has spent more $ than they care to admit on new stuff.(i quit in 1993? after spending tons on ud and leaf bb and watching it plummit in value) but somewhere on the choice was made to never buy modern again.as mentioned in previous posts list the clemente card on ebay,then take that money and buy vintage! you will never look back.