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Myron I think SGC's holders look the best, especially with the black background. As far as grading goes, I agree with you. I have nothing against grading companies. If I had a choice between bidding on a graded card and a non-graded card, I'd go for the graded because I'd know it was authentic. But, this business about paying more for a card because it's been graded is stupid. Do people realize that they're paying more for an attribute that the card should have anyway? When you look up a card in a price guide, those market values are for authentic cards. So, why am I going to pay NMT market value for a VG or Ex card just because a grading company says it's authentic? It doesn't make any sense.