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steve kGary - one more thing. Don't believe all those bids and high dollar numbers that you see on the scammer's private bid listings. Scammers are very clever and hope that one real person will jump in on the "herd mentality" of their fake bidding. The bids are shilled up and if the item doesn't sell, the scammer couldn't care less - they are going to stiff ebay for the seller fees anyway. Ebay doesn't care much either because even though they get stiffed for a certain amount of fees, they suffer no actual monetary losses.