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Posted By: Julie

Not only player, manager and innovator, but pitching AND hitting and fielding (I guess it will be in someone else's lifetime that Caruthers and and Hoy get in). Why do you have to make it as ONLY a player, a pitcher or a honcho? I guee John M. Ward beat the system, sort of.

But not to change the topic too much: what HOF players (deserving) were also at least GOOD managers?