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dennishttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86848&item=5148342452&rd=1 check out the "indian gum" lefty grove fake card from the same seller. there are a few sellers on ebay that specialize in beat up fake pre-war cards.this guy being 1. if he's selling it and it's pre-war it ain't real.