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Scott ElkinsFrom further conversing with Doug via e-mail. He still states they did not bleach the card. I seem to now (after thinking about it harder) remember Doug or someone (ever who called me to ask if it was OK to clean the back) mention to me that the cleaning process would only involve a little bleach and a Q-Tip.
Of course, neither one of us (Doug nor myself) can be 100% correct on the exact specifics of the conversation. I do know there was a "Burnt" mark at the top of the card - this can be seen in Lipset's Encyclopedia (and on Leon's Weaver) - Doug cannot remember. I can b/c I owned the card for a while. Anyway, I can just tell what I remember from the conversation with the person from Mastronet. I WAS NOT THERE WHEN THE CARD WAS CLEANED - I DON'T KNOW IF BLEACH WAS USED OR IF THEY USED SOMETHING A CONTESTANT ON "FEAR FACTOR" WOULD HAVE TO EAT TO REMOVE THE BURNT MARK ON THE CARD! I have stated before I have no idea how the card was cleaned, as I was not there. However, I am stating it again, so Doug will know I am not swearing that I saw them do something he says they did not do to that particular card. One thing, however, I will stick by what I remember from the conversation - Q-Tip and Bleach. Though, again, I cannot say this was what Mastronet used to clean the back, as I was not there!
runscott - I don't know what your agenda is - other than kissing Jay's A@@ and showing your ignorance. However, I have never stated the converation did not include the word bleach - in fact, I can remember being told that it would be applied with a Q-Tip to "CLEAN" the card! Do you not know that bleach is used to clean????????? Also, you want to attack me for not being able to remember EVERY WORD from a conversation that took place 3 or more years ago - then you MUST criticize Doug for not even remembering the card was stained and Mastronet did clean it!!!!!!!!!