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PASJDI personally believe very few of these cards from 70 years ago survived in strictly Mint condition. That said, I am also skeptical of many of the graded 8s, given all I have read and heard about restoration and based on what my gut tells me. For example, it's funny how there was NEVER a NM/MT 52 Wehmeier until PSA came along, and all of a sudden (after someone paid 20K or whatever for the first one) more and more magically appeared.