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Posted By: Patrick

Were we supposed to do the most overated before 1930??? Anyways that is a very tough question, especially since most of us didn't see guys pitch before then. I have opinions on Ryan, Koufax, and others. Obviously as you can tell by my user name I am a big Ryan fan. I can say about Ryan that he definitely wouldn't qualify as the greatest pitcher ever(but hes pretty good). If you ask who is the most "dominant" of all-time he migth be in the top 5. Toughest to hit, and he did this for a VERY,long time. 27 years to be exact. But you can't overlook the fact that in 25 of those 27 seasons his ERA was under 4. So to me he might not have won the Cy Young(eventhough he deserved it 3 or 4 years), his consistency was greatness. I have read all of Ryan's books, and as far as pitch count goes, when he was with the Angels he said he once through well over 200 pitches in one game, and Im sure he through well over 150 in most games. Pitch count is a joke!! The bottom line is all you need to do is ask players that played with him, and hit against him, and ask them how good Ryan was. Ask Aaron, Brett, Yount, Carew, Rose, etc. See how good they say Ryan is. He wasn't the greatest off all-time, but man he wa sure exciting and fun to watch pitch for 27 years! I also got to see him pitch in person 8 times while he pitched withe the Rangers. Wow what a thrill!!!