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Posted By: runscott

So Scott knows there is no card in the pack, and elected not to mention that, because he might lose bids from people who hope there is a card in the pack. He definitely told no lies. I posted a Sovereign pack a week ago, and stated that there was no card in the pack, mainly because I was posting in the pre-1930 card category. On re-reading this description, I probably should have said "there has never been a card in this pack". The 1902 tax stamp should give that away, but who knows. Also, I have over 60 auctions running, and I'm sure one of the "anti-runscotts" can find at least one misleading description among those

Disclaimer: I enjoy doing business with Scott - his auctions have some of the coolest stuff on ebay and I really don't care what his descriptions say. I've called and emailed when I had questions.

What I find even more curious about the OBAK pack auction is that ebay didn't shut it down - every time I have posted an auction for a pack containing cigarettes, ebay ended it quickly. Once I added the standard disclaimers, they let it ride. Perhaps someone is turning me in?

Example (no link - didn't want to get my tires slashed for advertising an item outside the B/S/T thread!)

Sovereign Cigarette Pack - Near Mint

A complete MINT condition pack of SOVEREIGN CIGARETTES issued by BUTLER-BUTLER of NEW YORK. The Sovereign brand was part of the American Tobacco Company group and one of the companies that featured t205 and t206 cards in their cigarette packs. There is no card in this pack, but it will be a great display piece, along with your Sovereign-backed t205 and t206 cards. Pack bears a TAX stamp that reads "U.T.Co., Facotry No. 147, 2d District., N.Y., Jan 1, 1902". This pack is MINT and contains 10 non-filter cigarettes. A scarce and interesting addition to any Cigarette pack collectors collection.

Please note - this item is being sold for it's value as a historical collectible related to t206 trading cards, and not for the value of the tobacco contents of the package.

1. The value of this item is in the collectible packaging, not in the tobacco itself.

2. The package contains the original cigarettes, stale and 100 years old, and the tobacco within is not for consumption.

3. The collectible tobacco packaging is not available at any retail outlet, and the packaging substantially exceeds the value of any tobacco cigarettes contained in any cigarette packs currently available in stores.

4. All bidders must be at least 18 years of age.