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runscott- he knows it and we know it. He should have listed it as "trimmed and measures short", but he didn't. Your parsing of MW's posts for debatable material and Ryan's dredging up of old posts of mine in an attempt to deflect attention away from a post he was too assinine to respond to intelligently, doesn't change this fact.
Hopefully you and I will continue to have friendly debates as we have in the past, and Ryan will continue to bury his head in Cuban cards and concentrate on looking for "cultural insensitivity" in our posts (that we can ignore) as he has in the past.
And everyone else can simply try to tighten that grey area where integrity seems to get lost, which was the original intention of this thread.