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Posted By: dc

The only point I was trying to make was that you all were jumping the gun yourselves initially by accusing Steve of being a scammer, etc. You didn't have any basis of fact for those accusations. None of you were nice in any way about the possibility that if indeed the cards were fraudulent, then maybe it wasn't Steve's doing, but rather he unknowingly had them. You all pretty much accused him of making fraudulent cards. Quite simply, you could have raised the doubts, given him some facts to look at and told him to have them graded before listing them. Constructive criticism not destructive criticism. I still question the maturity of some of you based on the things that have been said. If indeed Frank knows so much, then passing on the information one-on-one and advising Steve on a better way of handling this so that he can legitimately make good on this would have been a more professional way of handling the situation. Frank has made countless accusations from the beginning and points out that he is 100% sure...how can he be? Was he standing there while the scans were made? No. Did you watch Steve make fraudulent cards? No. You can't be 100% sure unless you were there. My experience on vintage cards has nothing to do with this matter. My issue has been about the accusations that fly back and forth and all the finger-pointing that was unnecessary. Put it this way...if those cards are graded and found to be good quality, what will you say then? Will you say "oops...sorry"? I seriously doubt it...most of you will all go silently away never bothering to apologize or to help Steve in his endeavor. Would you also bother to extend that apology to the countless people that you have "warned"? It comes down to thinking before you say and also thinking about the consequences of your actions. Or simply put yourselves in his shoes...how would you want to be treated if you were on the up-and-up? My comments about scanned images is that not all scanners are one and the same. I have a technical background and I can also tell you that even with the most sophisticated equipment, some people just don't know how to run hardware. Take a copier for example, simplest thing in the world to run, but somehow there are morons out there who make the crappiest copy that I've ever seen.
I hope that this all ends up that the cards are good...no one gets hurt and most of you will look foolish in your name-calling. Some of you are so bitter and not just to Steve. My god...the drama. Get over it. If you have doubt, don't buy it. Obviously some of you have experienced spending a lot of money on an item that ended up not being legit and you don't want to see it happen to someone else. Most of us at some point have experienced this and it sucks. I would hope that the lesson learned here (for Steve) is to not jump the gun...get the cards graded...and go from there.
And one last thing...I didn't appreciate being called a dick and still no apology from the jerk that called me that.