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Tomthree N28's from these Clowns-R-Us about 2 years ago. They all looked trimmed with one REALLY looking trimmed but the price was right. They 'appeared' to be about EX or better and the overall price was about 300+-. Just got them all back from SGC and the lowest grade was a 50, highest an 80.........guess I got one of the less than 5% of good lots that they sell........