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Old 08-08-2002, 06:16 PM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

Like I said in another thread, questionable people when cornered (and with little or no defense) resort to name-calling, and so on...


In reply:

1. The word fake, when written by me in this thread (toward the top, reply #1), was in reference to the AAA rubbish cut out of a magazine or whatever. Even the link to that AAA auction is there in that reply. I didn't refer to your card specifically as a fake. I think I actually said that it (like most others in PRO holders) was "a useless piece of crap-cardboard waste-of-money". But, I didn't say 'fake" in reference to your card here.

2. Having clarified that, I can (and will) use the word fake to describe anything that I see which is being misrepresented as something authentic, or simply, something it is not. False, fake, fraud, misrepresented = worthless (unless you find someone crazy enough to buy a PRO-slabbed card). Still, the seller would be misrepresenting what it really is. For more clarification, go to dictionary.com. After you've looked up the word "relevance", go next to the word "fake" and look at what it says:
fake 1: something false; not what it seems to be [syn: sham] 2: one that is not authentic or genuine; a sham, a fraud...
So, until "koos" becomes the leading name in dictionaries beyond the recognition given to Merriam-Webster and American Heritage, I'll hang my hat on their definitions...

3. My biggest problem with the card is NOT because the word Doctor appears in front of your name. Additionally, I have not "continued to point that out". I mentioned your doctor mantra only once. Try not to exaggerate. My biggest problem with the card clearly is that it is slabbed in a crap PRO holder, and PRO is known to slab crap cards (fakes...see above for definition of fake), cards that have been trimmed and altered, and they have also slabbed reprints saying they were the "real McCoy". That is clearly my "Biggest Problem", as anyone with a minimum of junior-high school reading comprehension skills would distill from reading my more recent entry on this thread.

4. I put Dan Mathewson in the "name" section of my entries, because (don't get lost here with this concept) it is my name. And, that is what the line asks for. Julie Vognar, Bruce Moreland, Scott Forrest (sometimes...LOL), Keith O'Leary, Doug Allen and many others put their full names on here. James Walker even includes the "Jr" at the end of his name. Is this all ok with you, or should everyone on Netwerk 54 be checking with you about how much of their name to put in the "name" field?

5. To answer your question about why I used the "bike_cop" eBay username...my original handle on eBay is "bike_cop" because that was my profession at the time. Originally, I used to buy bicycle parts and mtn bikes on eBay and on the Internet, and the username elicited many an interesting conversation about urban (street) bicycling (as opposed to country/terrain bicycling) with sellers and other bidders. It made sense to me at the time, sorry you cannot grasp that. But, I have often thought of creating a new one to more reflect my baseball collecting, which I am more interested in now. Perhaps I should check with you first, before selecting my new eBay username AND before using my full names in some instances? Again, I'm wondering why this is even relevant, but, oh well...

6. You see, Dr. Koos, I used primarily your own words from an earlier entry of yours (cut and pasted exactly, not twisted and misstated as you have done with my own words) to prove the point which everyone has been wondering here. Unfortunately, I think that frustrated you to a degree that you needed to make a series of ridiculous, unrelated comments about me, the use of my name, my eBay username, and whatever else you blathered on about. And, I think I'm almost feeling apologetic for hitting your achilles heel like that. Using your own words, I brought about the question to illustrate that even you yourself seem to think that it is the PRO Holder devaluing the card...so, it BEGS the question: Why wouldn't any reasonably prudent and well-informed collector invest the $30 to have it re-graded and slabbed by a well-reputed dealer, rather than carry on in this debate? Also, why not spend that thirty-bucks and increase the cards value by thousands if it is, in fact, AUTHENTIC?

You said all of this yourself, I only highlighted what you said. You can continue to call me names all you want, and talk about all the fringe stuff regarding my name and username, etc, ad nauseum, all you like...that is another well-known attribute of the "shill" -- to distract people with randomness in hopes that it "keeps their eyes off the ball" so to speak. But, what has happened here is pretty clear.

As you mount your own defense again, Dr. Koos, continue on with another volley of insults to maintain denial and avoidance. My reputation can handle it.

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