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Posted By: jay behrens

Sorry your introduction to this group is in the middle of the this mess. This really is a very good board with lots of friendly knowledgable people. Don't this this inceident turn you off to this board. It will go away.

As for the Doktor, here's sort of Readers Digest Condensed VErsion of what's happened:

Doktor shows up and annoys some people.

Doktor tells story about some not so intelligent purchases because he didn't do some basic research before making a significant purchase, such as the Mantle and gains some sympathy from people here and people actually start to sidde with him.

All is a good for a long time.

Doktor offers Mantle for sale with a less than accurate desccription.

Doktor asked "what's going on, why are you running an auction with a knowlingly fraudulent description?"

His answer, instead of being businesslike and professional (how does a person that owns a business, stay in business acting this way?), was a continuous tirade name calling and subject changing that dodged legit concerns that were being raised about the auction.

Mantle auction was cancelled and his explanation offered.

Doktor continues personal attacks on people in threads that have nothing to do with him or his cards.

Things are still tense but mellowing until the Jackson card is offered.

Instead of learning from his first experience, the Doktor once again falls into the same partern of name calling and threats when asked a very simple question about the auction.

People on this board do not randomly choose to attack someone. Every thing the Doktor did in the Mantle auction was a very serious red flag for eBay fraud; his description of the card was knowingly wrong, his feedback is private and the auction was private. And to top things off, instead of being forthright and open about what was going on, his posting here did nothing more than fuel the specualtion that was trying to rip off some other poor sucker becuase none of his responses did anything to alleviate anyone's concerns about the auction.

99% of this mess could have been avoided had been open about what he was doing or even just kept his mouth shut, right from the begining.

Jay