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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
Maybe Ray fibbed about it back in the day and made up the story about his father, and later decided to come clean perhaps with the p.i. promising it was only to be revealed to Kendrick? Who knows. In any event, there's nothing still back beyond the 1980s.
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This whole story is interesting if you compare the recent Kendrick video (Mastro BAD) with Bill's podcast interview that (if I recall) was only a few months ago.
Bill paints this innocent picture of wanting to keep the card for himself, and using a paper cutter (which he still owns, BTW) to change the shape from an oblong "football" of a card off some huge uncut sheet into the precise and razor sharp item that eventually became Gretzky's PSA 8. It was all very above board, innocent, and hey back then nobody knew much or cared about things like trimming or alteration anyway, right? Jim Copeland didn't care about trimming or apparently even ask any questions when Mastro sold him the pre-PSA card back in the late 1980's.
Since then of course, due to Mastro's other (real) serious problems with shill bidding and federal prison - it's been all too easy I think just to consider him the bad guy with the Wagner too. But was he really? I've seen others on this board who consider PSA crooks from the word go, saying David Hall himself was a known card doctor who wished to profit further from that with his grading company - and that the whole thing with the Wagner was a big conspiracy from the beginning.
Interesting in this, Ken's position is all "Poor PSA, they got duped, they didn't know..."
