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Originally Posted by G1911
Bob Friend falls 3 wins short of 200, but he and Bobo are the two guys who immediately come to mind for 'good pitchers with losing records'. 107 ERA+ is better than Jim Kaat, but luck wasn't with them.
Jamie Moyer played forever and is the worst pitcher with 250 wins.
Jerry Reuss was exactly league average over 22 years, which doesn't make him bad but 22 years and league average is a very long career.
LaTroy Hawkins lasted 21 years as a subpar to mediocre reliever. He has to be up there. 106 ERA+ is pretty weak for a 1 inning relief pitcher
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Thing about guys like Reuss and Moyer is that there are a number of very good years and maybe even one or two great years mixed in. It's basically the front and back ends of their careers that makes their careers look "League Average" in their prime they were both All-Stars and occasional Cy Young Candidates.