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Old 02-02-2025, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Vern View Post
That's your interpretation. Don't even try to tell me what I am or what I'm not doing. You haven't a clue, and it’s on full display!

What I said was a person that is just collecting to get a set doesn't care what or who is in that set, just to get it completed. That’s just a fact.

You would still collect a set if Verne wasn't part of it, correct? The only reason you'd even care to have his card was if he were in the set. Don't lie to me or yourself. That's the only reason for most set collectors. That's not a bad thing, just reality

The other type collector would be a team collector. Some may have more interest in common players most are probably like set collectors, and just want them for that reason.

The only reason I want them is because it has personal value outside of collecting for baseball. 1st he has family DNA and also where I live his family started the town of Clemons Grove. His grandfather William Clemons was the founder. That's my want for them.

So yes if you want to know if I feel I have more interest in them then many I'd say yes, absolutely. That's where it would end. I don't think I'm entitled to anything nor have I applied that. That's you not me that thinks that.

This is what you're interpretation is if you want me to spitball for your thoughts. You've put words in my mouth so I'll do so for you.

You feel I think I'm more entitled to it because hear me out. I tried to offer him money then offer a card on top of that, because he implied he didn't want to break up a set. My sole intention was to keep him having a full set, and me getting a card I wanted. That’s it! Period. Anything else was idiocy thrown my way. I tried to make a deal that would work for both parties. This entire thing blew up because of some thin skinned set collectors that ignored the true question asked of how to find the Verne Clemons of the world. You like many others blew right past the main question and got butt hurt.
As a long time set collector, I agree that it's true that the reason I want a card is to complete my set regardless of who the player is. However, that doesn't mean I'll buy any card just to fill the spot in the set. Maybe some people will, but I usually have a set of criteria for the cards I want in a set I'm working on. Regardless of the fact that you said his set was a range from A to 7, maybe there was something about the card that you offered him (apparently with cash) that didn't meet his criteria for his set so he turned you down.

As for how to find the commons like Verne Clemons, it takes time and effort looking through a lot of online auctions and listings and a lot of boxes and books of cards at shows sometimes to find some cards. For a lot of people, that's what they like about the hobby - the hunt for that elusive card they've been trying to find for years.
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