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Originally Posted by Leon
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Before my report or findings on this Bond Bread controversy all due respect and appreciation goes out to Ted Z: For starting this Bond Bread thread back in 2009, may he rest in peace. Leon in thread #4 of this thread was kind enough to post the link to the original thread. My appreciation goes out to all past and present who have participated and added their contribution, thanks to all. John
My report back will be a long one as I gather the information we have on this Bond Bread controversy. I will be posting updates at different times so stay tuned. The controversy is about what a Bond Bread card is, and what did they look like. We have rounded corner cards, squared corner cards, a 1980s Festberg find, in a warehouse in NJ. On top of that we printed cards on different card stock-paper and then there are the out right fakes - counterfeit cards.
Let's start at the beginning. Quoting: Ted Z- “It was the Summer of '47....my sister and I carefully opened up Homogenized Bond Bread packages, for a Joe DiMaggio, a Ted Williams, a Stan Musial, or the new rookie sensation....a Jackie Robinson BB card. Our Mom couldn't buy enough of the Bond Bread loafs. So, we had our Dad buying Bond Bread for his restaurant and our Aunt buying Bond Bread. These B/W cards were really popular with the kids in our neighborhood. By trading & sharing our collections with each other, we eventually realized that there were no more than 44 BB players and 4 Boxers in a complete set.”
Ted Z- made a valid point - the only cards that should get the designation of Bond Bread cards are the ones inserted into loaves of Bond Bread bread. Ted Z- “The only true 1947 Bond Bread cards are these 48 in this general set and the Jackie Robinson set. All of which have beveled (or ROUNDED) corners in order to fit into the bread loaf packages. Unfortunately, other issues that resemble the Bond Bread cards that were issued after 1947 and were never packaged in Bond Bread loafs have been mis-identified as "1947 Bond Bread" cards. Grading Co. have been most guilty of erroneously labeling these SQUARE "impostors".
One other problem I see is that the Standard catalog of vantage baseball cards 4 edition, (I do not know about the others editions), classify both the round corned cards and the square corned cards as Bond Bread and give it the classification as W571 or I should say have assign them to W571.
Ted Z had first hand knowledge on what should be considered and given the destination as Bond Bread cards. He collected his cards directly from Bond Bread packages. Which I believe he said they we're never square corner cards or beveled cut, not quite round. See the threads below.
https://net54baseball.com/showthread...05%2D14%2D2020
https://net54baseball.com/showthread...06%2D28%2D2020
https://net54baseball.com/showpost.p...06%2D30%2D2020
There is this misconception… that the rounded corner “Bond Bread” card was printed before all others. This is not true. We know that the Chicago publisher, Arrco Playing Card company had printed baseball cards and had originally sold the cards in 1947 in boxed sets of 12 under the name Collectors & Traders Sports Star Subjects. For boxes of Sport Star baseball cards, notice the round or beveled edges. See thread # 76.
https://net54baseball.com/showpost.p...06%2D10%2D2016
One reason why there is a difference in a rounder and beveled cut corners cards: Is because in the beginning of the production of the baseball cards by Arrco - the Sports Star cards where most likely die cut which gave them more of a beveled edge. By the time they started production on the Bond Bread cards, Arrco probably started using a round cornering machine, which gave the cards a more rounded edge.
Two interesting facts: The ARRCO Playing Card Company was started in 1927 (or 1930) in Chicago. ARRCO started as Arrow Playing Card Company by Theodore Regensteiner, who also invented the four-color lithograph press.
The round cornering machine, also known as a corner rounder or corner cutter, was invented to add rounded edges to documents, business cards, covers, and other printed materials. I do not know who invented the round cornering machine. But it was more pleasing to the eye than say a die cut card. We can see the difference in the cards.
Stay tuned, more to come. John