It may not be intuitive to you, but a conviction via a guilty plea is legally the same as a conviction by a judge or jury after trial. The overwhelming majority of convictions are via a guilty plea. As a layperson, perhaps it seems less meaningful to you, but instead of fighting endlessly about the law and the facts of the actual case, you could have just said that all along.
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