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Originally Posted by Snowman
Yes Peter, you can charge someone with whatever the hell charges you want in an indictment. Obviously, some threshold has to be met, but just because something is listed on an indictment doesn't mean they are guilty of said charges. Hence in a trial, the jury gives verdicts for each charge.
If you want to argue that he went to prison for trimming/selling the Wagner because he struck a plea deal and it never went to trial, then fine. But that's something different from what I'm talking about and you know it.
Find me a single court case where someone was charged with and convicted BY A JURY for altering and/or selling an altered baseball card. I'll wait...
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You keep moving the goalposts. I cannot have an intelligent discussion with you. First you said he wasn't charged with it. Then you said he wasn't convicted of it. Now you want an example of a jury verdict, even though legally it's the same thing as a guilty plea, where SOMEONE ELSE was convicted. I never said I knew cases where a jury had convicted anyone of a charge related to trimming or concealment of trimming. Most criminal cases don't go to trial. I have been talking exclusively about the Mastro case, and so have you until you just shifted the goalposts yet again because every single thing you postulate has been proven to be wrong. So where are all these "lawyers in the hobby" who disagree with my take on the MASTRO CASE?
Are you that ego invested that you can't just see that you were wrong, and move on?