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Originally Posted by rats60
My comp for Joey Votto is Lance Berkman
Votto .294/.409/.511/.920 OPS+144
Berkman .293/.406/.537/.943 OPS+144
Berkman has more HRs and RBIs despite having 900 fewer ABs. Votto has a MVP, but Berkman has a championship, a championship the Cardinals don't win without Berkman's clutch hitting. Berkman was also much better in the postseson.
Votto .244/.319/.244/.563
Berkman .317/.417/.532/.949
Berkmam got 1.2% in his first ballot and fell off. I think Votto will stick on the ballot, but I don't see him having enough production to get elected as a 1B. Maybe both get elected by a Veteran's Committee in the distant future.
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I think Votto and Berkman are good comparisons, as they both have a career OPS+ of 144 (which is pretty damned good) and were All Stars 6 times. But I think Votto gets in and I don't think Berkman ever does.
Votto has the MVP and a Gold Glove. Votto has almost twice the black ink as Berkman and about 50% more gray ink.
Berkman does have 4 top 5 MVP finishes and 6 top 10 though, so it wouldn't be a huge stretch to put Berkman in.
But I think the main factor is that Berkman was overshadowed by a lot of players during the steroids era. He is sort of a victim of circumstance.