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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
And your position is that if selling it, there would be nothing to disclose?
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I'd like to live in a world where anything done to cards would be openly disclosed and discussed. In fact, I'm one of the very few sellers I see on eBay that puts "CREASE" or "WRINKLE" in my listing titles. In my other hobbies, everyone discloses everything because there's no blowback. In the rare casino and poker chip collecting world,
everyone cleans their chips openly. There are countless threads in those communities where people discuss cleaning techniques and everyone chimes in. Zero people stand by with pitchforks trying to crucify people.
In this hobby, the interpersonal landscape is extremely unhealthy. It's a whole different ball of wax. Perhaps unironically, I've even had people from this hobby (Blowhard forums) stalk/follow me over to the casino chip hobby and try to "out me" there for cleaning chips and creating YT videos showing people how to do it and how to make custom chips, as if I was some sort of con artist. It was actually quite hilarious. Because in that world, nobody cares. No one. They just laughed at the sports card guy screaming at clouds.
The amount of vitriol spewed by people like G1911 fosters an environment where people simply don't care to have open and honest conversations like these. When stating that I prefer to clean my cards is met with claims like, "You're a fraudster and a con artist!", that door to open and honest conversation gets closed. Unless and until that changes, I don't think people are going to feel comfortable making such disclosures. It's the same reason people don't express their political beliefs anymore on social media. They don't want to deal with the blowback at work or in their personal lives caused by a band of cancel culture psychopaths whose only goal in life is to take down anyone and everyone they disagree with.
So, in short. I'd like to see anything and everything openly disclosed and discussed in this hobby. Is that realistic though? No, of course not. Not as long as there are legitimate psychopaths running around trying to set people on fire for cleaning their baseball cards.