[molenick]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

"I never said it was proof.

I just said that, like the Holsum Bread design found in the same book, the design could have existed in 1921 but could not have originated in the 1970s."

My apologies.

"The problem with saying "Ah, revitalized design from the 1930's or 1940's in the 1970's on a 1921 card" is that you are starting by assuming they are 1970's cards."

Please review:

I have stated the dealer in May 1999 told me at the table the cards were printed in the 1970's.

"And if "this paragraph eliminates the design" how did another design from the book get on a 1921 Holsum Bread card."

I've been waiting for this one all day. THANK YOU!!!!
The Holsums have been known for a very long time. The "1921" Herpolsheimer plus a design from either the late 1930's or 1940's plus a dealer at the table in May 1999 waiving his hand over the cards in the case and stating they were printed in the 1970's equals not original. Those three outweigh, but the Holsum was also the late 1930's or 1940's.

Well, it is too late to continue arguing. But can you do me one favor and please stop saying "waiving"? That means putting a player on waivers (among other definitions). I think we can all agree that "waving" is the correct word.